How To Win A Bar Fight

how to win a fightThis is a guest post by Steve Ramsbottom on “How to Win a Bar Fight”. If interested in submitting a guest post please read our guest posting policy and then contact us.

Editors Note: Stephen was my martial arts instructor while I lived in Texas. For over 20 years he’s been a student of the martial arts. Stephen owns his own martial arts school and instructs Jeet Kune Do-the combat system and philosophy that Bruce Lee and Dan Inosanto cultivated. He has had the pleasure of teaching to Law Enforcement, Security Staff and Military Operators. Working in the night club industry in Vancouver for ten years, he experienced some of the best and worst venues in the city. I know Stephen has faced more dangerous situations than he can count. So I asked him to write on how to be smart and protect ourselves when faced with even the worst of circumstances, not just in the case of a bar fight. 

-Todd

In my years as a professional doorman, I can say with pretty solid accuracy, that I have been involved in the better part of 1,000 bar fights. Some were pretty minor, and took just moments to end. Some were all out brawls involving every doorman, and multiple patrons. Some were fist fights. Some were swarms of attackers. Some were broken-bottle-armed assailants intending on inflicting grievous bodily harm onto whomever they could touch.

The key to winning a bar fight isn’t brute strength or the greatest speed. It’s to be smart and prepared. If you equip yourself with the techniques below you’ll have an upperhand in a down situation.

• Prep work
• Avoidance
• Identification
• Threat identification
• Termination of Conflict
• Tactical Disengagement

Prep Work

The most basic and fundamental thing that is most often ignored: Prep work=thinking ahead.

If you can look around the venue and have some idea of the lay of the land, you will have some idea as to what to do, or where to head if and when a bar fight breaks out.

AvoidanceBar Fight-no man can think clearly

Running is your first, and safest, option. In no way is it a sign of cowardice. The exception to this rule is when you’re cornered, or when you’ve got to protect someone else. Otherwise, knowing how to get out in a hurry is probably the best prep work we can do.

A night of drinking in a potentially hostile environment is just not worth the risk. I have a number of times disengaged from conflict in order to reassess the situation or reposition myself, to wait for backup, or to simply get out of the bar fight. It happens to everyone. Don’t feel like you need to get your butt kicked or worse in order to look tough. Screw it. Toughness is not measured by the ability to take punishment or get yourself killed. Just skip the bar fight.

Want to tell a possible foe you’re not intimidated? Buy him a drink. Befriend your enemy. It’s a bar…Is the cost of a $7 drink easier to swallow than 10 days of healing, or a trip to the hospital?

Your last avoidance option in a bar fight? Get the doorman.

Threat Identification

We need to be able to identify threats from as far a distance as possible so that we have time to make decisions. Is someone walking aggressively towards you? Is he moving with purpose towards you? Look for a stiff, unusual stride. Fists and jaw clinched, eyes narrowed, brow furrowed, flared nostrils. They will look like a bull ready to charge.

Is he alone? Is he armed? Who was with him when I last saw him? Are there any people around him or watching him that seem to fit his same profile?

Termination of Conflict

If you’re attacked and running is not an option, you’re aim is to terminate the conflict (bar fight) as thoroughly and hastily as possible. You don’t want to get into a boxing match. I have always said that if you get into it within a group of people, that the first guy you touch you should make an example of him. Crush him. Destroy him in spirit and make the next few day a painful reminder that he picked the wrong guy.

Let’s cover how to get out of a bar fight  ASAP: Entry Point, Middle, Exit.

Entry Point: Cause Pain

Could you win a bar fight against a vintage Arnold Schwarzenegger? No? Could you find a way to gouge him in the eye? Yes? If you can cause pain, if you can hurt the person, you can win.

Getting your attacker to wince in severe pain will tip the playing field severely in your favor. If they are in pain, for a moment they cannot attack. They will be so thrown off guard you can come in for a flurry.

Best ways to cause pain:

Eye Gouging-It is terribly easy to touch someone’s eyeball as they are coming in to tackle or hit you. A poke is great, but even barely wiping their eye will disturb them enough for you to terminate this conflict.

Elbow to Knuckles-As your hands are up to guard your face, keep your elbows up a little high. If they are throwing punches, they must make throw a strike that’s in line from their face/body to your face. If you can intercept that line with the point of your elbow, they’ll easily injure-even break-their own knuckles against your much harder elbow.

Groin Strike-A kick to the groin can help end a fight quickly. But this is actually more difficult than it may seem. If you’re going to try a groin kick, commit to it and pull it back as quickly as possible. Lessen the chance they can grab your leg, and at the least hurt them in case you don’t hit the mark.

As you’re throwing kicks, don’t forget to keep your hands up and protect your head. Strikes can come from any direction during a bar fight.

Middle-Get them to back pedal

As soon as your opponent is hunched over in severe pain from a poked eye, broken hand, or paralyzing groin strike, LITERALLY run at them punching as fast and hard as you can. Don’t worry about being a professional and landing all your strikes. Get this person backing up, tripping, and in a daze.

Exit-Injure them

More elbows to the head, wiping of the eyes, headbutts, and knees to the groin. Mix it up very quickly and get out. Exit.

Rules of Engagement in a Bar FightBar Fight Elvis

Rule: There’s no cheating in a street or bar fight. Groin strikes, punches to the throat, eye gouging, it’s all acceptable if somebody is out to hurt you.

Rule: Get your back to a wall. Don’t let someone sneak up on you.

Rule: Equalize the bar fight.

If there is more than one attacker, or he’s twice your size, grab an equalizer. A bottle is a great weapon (Corona bottles break the best; Heineken the worst). Just get your hand on anything you can use. I once hit a guy with a fire extinguisher. That ended the fight quickly. Absolutely don’t introduce a weapon unless you’re outgunned and outnumbered.

Rule: Punch something soft

If we are in an empty handed situation, some of the best advice I ever got was from my first Karate Sensei. He said to me in broken English, “Don’t take a biga bone, and hit a biga bone. Take a biga bone and hit a softa spot.

The reality is if you’re throwing punches you’ll likely walk away with a broken hand. But if you can take those hard bones in your fist and hit a softer point, you can cause damage while not injuring yourself.

Striking, as in punching and kicking can be extremely useful when in the proper range. But these are learned skills that require time and effort to practice, master and maintain. Slamming a mans head off a wall or bar top are not that difficult to do. So use the immediate environment around you to your advantage in a bar fight. Shoving a distracted or already injured man (from our initial shot to the eye, etc), is also greatly advantageous. You’ll be surprised how much a shove can do.

Rule: Get a hold of something-and yank it

I like to get control of the head or arm just above the elbow, gaining control of a choke point on the body. I take this from a Filipino art that is under the Kali umbrella called Dumog. The art uses weight displacement and balance points to move your opponents body around, causing disorientation and opening doors for insertion of pain.

The point is, get a hold of something on him and yank it. If we have already caused a visceral pain response in him, he is going to be relatively ‘soft’ and easier to move around or be thrown out of the way. Now that he is moving and fighting to regain his balance, HIT HIM!

Rule: Get back to your feet

Just about the worst possible place to end up in any fight, especially a bar fight, is on the ground. First off, there is the initial impact when you fall, that can wind you and cut down your ability to fight by 50% or more. Then there are the environmental factors we have to consider, like broken glass. After all, it’s a bar, and there’s a fight going on.

In the past 5 years the growth of the UFC and other MMA organizations we have seen a serious growth in people’s ability to fight on the ground. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Pankration, Judo and Collegiate Wrestling are a few of the arts that we can pretty much expect to see people using in fights these days. Which gives us an even better reason to get up off the ground as quickly as you can in a bar fight. The longer you stay on the ground the higher the possibility of getting seriously hurt. So do whatever you can to get back to your feet.

Tactical Disengagement

Just because the bar fight is over doesn’t mean you are safe.

If you just got your ass handed to you in a bar fight are you going to just let it go? A complete douche might call their buddies and wait around to beat up the guy that embarrassed them.

The point is, get out now.

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Prep Work. Be aware of your surroundings. Who else is in the bar that night and what potential is there for conflict?

Identification. See the faces and make mental notes of who may be a threat.

Avoid the conflict at all cost. When in doubt, get the heck out.

Terminate the conflict. Remember that this isn’t a competition, it’s literally your life on the line. Fight like it.

Tactical Disengagement. I will quote from the great Monty Python’s Quest for the Holy Grail, “Run away! Run away!”

Bar Fight Stephen Ramsbottom

Conclusion

I hope that the information we have covered here will be of help to you as you make choices to head out and have a good time with your friends. Let me leave you with a final thought:  Be wary of those you call enemy, but be wise with those you call friend.

Regards,

Steve Ramsbottom
O/O the Mission, Jeet Kune Do Concepts and Philosophies
Certified Use of Force Instructor, JIBC

Comments

  1. Wow, that was an interesting post. I particularly like the idea of the elbow / fist block. I had not thought of that. Keep the elbows a little high when protecting your face.

    Soft spot gouge to get the opponent off balance and backing up.

    I hope I never need this information. I tend to avoid bars because the behavior (even non fighting behavior) tends to degrade to the lowest common denominator when people have alcohol in their systems.

    • Todd Mayfield says:

      In Jeet Kune Do and Rapid Assault Tactics we practiced guarding our head, using our elbows, and utilizing joint manipulations EVERY night. If you can let someone punch your elbow, or even just barely wipe their eye, the fight will be over before it’s begun.

  2. Wow, this is awesome! I’m a fan of being the first to realize when a fight is about to happen. This allows you to drop the trusty headbutt to the nose before they realize what hit ’em. Works like a charm. Throat and eye pokes are good too.

    I don’t fight very often, but I only fight to win. That means all bets are off. Ears will be torn. Noses will be broken. Great stuff.

    • Todd Mayfield says:

      John, that’s an important point. Steve actually originally had a point in there about “Initiation of Aggression.” Meaning that if you realize you are going to be attacked, be the first to strike. But we cut it out of the final as we didn’t want it to seem as though we’re encouraging people to pick fights!

  3. Greg Keener says:

    Great article.

    Like John @ Married (with Debt), I don’t fight often. When I do, I fight as dirty as possible. People need to be concerned with winning and exiting safely, and nothing else. Leave the dignity and “clean fights” to the athletes. I will have to try the elbow block next time, though.

    I especially agree with Steve on the exit strategy. Kick them while they’re down a few times. If you don’t, they WILL get up while you’re on your way out the door. You will regret this.

  4. I admire Stephen’s first rule – departure. It takes two to fight. Just ’cause some idiot with raging hormones and two sheets to the wind has world issues doesn’t make him your problem. If it isn’t personal, disappear. Your ego was never on the line in the first place. Besides, the first thing you learn in any self defense is that if a fight starts, you’ve already failed.

  5. That’s awesome, I haven’t been in a brawl in years. I used to work at a boot camp style corrections facility and was the manager of the disciplinary unit. I was always the first in and last out and had a great team. I can’t tell you how many black eyes and fat lips I got out of 180+ altercations over two years but fortunately I never got seriously hurt. Most of the time I was able to deescalate the situation, but in those instances when I had to be a bad-ass, I was very good at my job.

  6. Bull.Shit. Plain and simple.

    If you are tackle with someone doing a shelter-and-stab approach (ie: 99% of all junkies in a bar fight), they will hold one arm forward, and do deliberate, thrusting stabs with a stolen knife from Army&Navy, or a dirty syringe. Win or lose, you still get the consolation prize of “winning” a knife fight, and possible an STD to top it off.

    Matt
    -Background – 19 years in mercenary sambo, MMA, and teaching urban self defense (Canada Carry)

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